Ok....thanks for the info.... so now,,,,,,,,,,where are the dang hogs? !!!! lol, seen lots of turkeys, water moccasins and bobcats....no deer,no hogs. I usually see quite a few doe bedded downapprox 100 yrds in, all up and down 471 during the daylight hrs but havent walked that area yet this yr. Powder had lots of hog sign but it looked a bit dried out, maybe done just before the season opened.