Regardless of the .17 I still believe that the .22lr and .22 mags are better. I have shot a .17 and it was not bad but I still like the .22 better. The .22 mags however I dont think are forgotten but the popularity of them due to all the new calibers of rifles the companies are coming out with has dropped. I still would like the .22 mag of .17. But thats just one mans opinion.