Semisane, now I know why your wife wonders about you. Gimpy congrats on the deer. I love them Gold Dots to I used the 250gr this year, very effectivebothdropped in their tracks, and I did find the bullet with a metal detector [of course I was in a high stand on my own land and went back later to try just out of curosity, did not really expect to find it even though I new right where to look. Lee