RE: urban area hunters
I live about 40 mi. n. of nyc. Its suburban but has its rural spots(lots of big estates and horse farms and undeveloped land still). A couple of my spots are close to houses or in developments. Ive found that in these spiots the deer know where the people are supposed to be and are pretty much unaffected by them and the noise that we make. Step one foot into "their" territory and its a whole different ballgame, all you'll see are the white flags. This kind of hunting sets up some pretty good funnels in certain spots though.