2 years ago in the first week of December I saw 6 bucks chasing a hot doe all around a posted field in Steuben Cty NY. The bucks were all sparring with one another and at least one or two were constantly chasing that doe like a dog. The next morning I set up in the dark and waited for daylight when I could rattle. The first one to cross the posted line was a large doe who came right out of the swamp looking for the fight. The second deer was a nice 8 point who decided he would rather live in my freezer than to do anymore breeding. Those bucks weren't all gathered and chasing for no reason.