The issues im having is where ive been hunting its real thick manzanita and cat claw where several game trails funnel in you can see with optics to about 200 yards down one of the paths but its too thick for a clean shot with a rifle so ive been out there with a shotgun and T steel and a T & F Xtra full choke. id like to get them in to atleast 40 yards. Im using an electric call buts it homemade and runs off a cd player so I have no control over it and if a yote comes in too early in the track Im having issues coaxing them in with a mouth call. I figure If I had someone with me to take turns on the calling I could do away with the electric call and maybe make this stand work. Ive tried other stands with open prairie shots with a rifle but theres just too much activity to compete with ie quail hunters the yotes are holding tight to cover.