I know, i've read that too. I'm not disagreeing or argueing with no one but there won't be anyone pissing in my scrapes but the deer themselves in my woods. To many times when i first started bow hunting 21 years ago when i was a kid did i see bucks, doe's, fawns running from where i pissed in the woods before i got in my stand. I learnedshortly after thatto go before i go in the woods. To each there own right!