you are right on the money about looking up in the trees, had a couple of small does come in spotted me pretty quick but did not spook them just seemed to wander off. i think I am in a good spot have seen the does every time in the stand an have a rub line about 50 yards in front of me.Took a bruizer in mickleton area last year 8 point heavy beam201lb dressed out last day of regular archery.He was in the some of the thickest brush I have ever been in but I always thought the big one are still out there you got to work to get them.