Jeff I think Cooter is saying we put too much weight on the kill. My buddy here in MI just shot a buck under 100'', he shot it to get his kill. He did not want to go club and not have a buck kill. He shot a really small buck for him. I can tell you it was shot under the pressure to have a "buck" kill.

What cooter is saying is correct IMO, having a "buck" kill does not make one a "good hunter".

To me the true test is being able to execpt not getting a "buck", to me that is when one becomes a good mature hunter IMO. We have a lot of great killers in MI, but to me it is way differnet. Just what I think.

To get to the topic of the post, I do agree it is more about the hunter than the equipment.