Vikes, these are my feelings to the T. I was actually sitting in my stand lastnight, and I had a button buck come to within 5 yards of the base of my ladder stand, (and I was only up about 10'). I had ,y drag rag hanging right at the base of my tree, and when he cought the scent, he came right to my tree, lip curling and everything, boy I had to restrain myself from not shooting him just so I could have some meat in hte freezer.