Droptine, does the dropping an arrow out of the tree theory sound right to you though? It does to me. I'm going to have to try this out for real. Many years ago I missed the biggest buck I ever had a shot at, at about 5 yds. from the base of my tree. Clean missed, probably due just because of this exact quest. Also wondering how a 20 yd pin could work practically straight down when evryone says to use the one closest to the arrow.