All that I was trying to say is that there are other groups that hold muzzleloading matches out there besides the NMLRA. As far as the NMLRA having its ups and downs, I have to agree with you. I have been a member of NMLRA, among other shooting and hunting related groups, since the mid 70' s and have witnessed many of these changes myself. However, even though I feel that the NMLRA has a long way to go to become the group that represents ALL phases of muzzleloading the best, I will admit that they are currently the best group we have for representing competitive muzzleloading shooting. As far as muzzleloading hunting, muzzleloading related politics and youth activities go, the NMLRA has a long way to go when compared to other muzzleloading related groups. Hopefully some of the recent steps taken by the NMLRA to correct these inadequacies will take a hold and will produce long term changes in the NMLRA operation in these areas. Unfortunately, it has only been a mouthing of promises to take action about doing something in these areas that has been the prevalent NMLRA action in the past. I look forward to seeing the NMLRA progress in these areas and stand ready to help where I can.