Just wanted to take a moment to probably say good by due to more than likely being banned due to a post on the IBO forum over a Martin archery add. Just could not stand by without defending this guy for saying what he believed in and seeing the personal attacks that developed latlely. So glad to say I never saw that on this forum. You are a great bunch of people with a knowledge base second to none and I wanted to say thank you for all that I have learned from you despite long years in archery and as a traditionalist. LBR you run a great ship here but these guys make it pretty easy (must be a traditional thing) Hope to see/meet some of you in the future and shoot a round or hunt a bit. If I go I go, no regrets at least I said (gently to me) what I feel and just did not feel that I could say nothing when it got to the point it did. Good hunting, good shooting, never give up the sticks, the last bastion of real archery.Darryl Payne, aka Darryl Longbow, hey Greyghost hope to meet you some time, you can discuss with passion and are always a gentleman, a rare combination nowdays it seems.