I agree with Buff...Also I am here to tell ya once all you folks that have money lease everything up I will be a poaching MF every chance I get. I hunt because I enjoy hunting not shooting. I have gone a few years without getting a deer and have loved every second of it. States are raping us bad enough selling us a chance to get a deer or whatever, You guys keep paying these land barrons and when someone outbids you or they sell their land to someone else that leases it for more then you can afford then you will be in my passenger seat running the spotlight!!! People need to get back to the roots of hunting where there is more to it then horns. I would like to take a buck every now and then and maby even have a chance at a large buck but I am very happy with a doe. JustIMO