I was very pleased with the fiber wad loads. The plastic shot cup was a different story. I would be more then willing to let fly with that fiber wad load at a grouse. It worked on that red squirrel just fine. His head and body was covered in shot. In fact he was just going over a log on the ground when I hit him. Then the dog of course had to go over there and make a big thing out of bringing him back. That old dog of mine can only walk anymore, I think he's either deaf or learned to ignore me over the years, but he likes to retreive. He really thought that was cool bringing that red squirrel back to me.

Like I said, a lot more testing to try. I want to cut down some of the plastic shot cups and see if they work as a over the powder card, then a fiber wad on top of that, then shot, then an over the shot card. Like I said, it is fun trying out different things.