Here is what i did. I'm a recuve guy from the start. I shoot alright, but decided to buy a compound for a back up bow. Anyhow i decided to buy a fred bear element from hunters friend. I walked into the local crappy archery shop to pick up my brothers bow and got talkin with the retard that runs the place.(strike one) I told him of what i'm lookin at ordering. He said he could beat the price. So he made some calls. 429.99. Not bad, but the average. He then convinced me to shoot a few bows in the shop. I shot a tornado, bengal, rage, etc...(second strike) I liked the rage so i bought it. While setting the bow up, he asked me what i want to shoot. I said carbon, but i want good arrows that will last because i'm done buying ****. I want a bow that i can pull from the case and shoot and not have to worry about tuning the arrows or replacing. Anyhow, he sold me Rebel carbon 60-75. THese arrows scare the #### out of me. I've broke 6 already just shooting a regular block target. They just crack and make all sorts of funny sounds then pulled from the target. they crack just from being shot into the target. THe bow is set up with a 29in arrow, 62 pounds. What should i buy. I guess i'll drop another 80 bucks. I still shoot my recurve alot, so i don't want maximma or anything really fancy, just a good dependable arrow