I hear ya craig I like to go to a friends camp every year the second week of november. Its in the NW of the state and on the Canadian Border. Of course the entertainment is going to be more diffacult to get to now that we need passports to go over to it but Oh Well. The pond thing isnt going to happen, obligations at home for the rest of this week and next but I can many fit in a sit or two here in Stockton up on Fletchers Hill or something. I have seen a few does and a skipper in a couple spots around here that I could have tagged but I HATE tagging out before camp unless its something decent. Needless to say I have never tagged out before deer camp...LOL. I didnt get a doe permit this year either. I put in for 7,8, extra in 25 and didnt get squat!!! Non Res did, boy dont that chap my ass!!![:@]oh well not much I can do about it I guess.

Later Guys shoot straight and teach a kid to hunt and fish, not smoke dope and wash it down with Allens!!