I know how ya feel I watched a big boy for 4yrs in a posted property he never came over to my property. All summer I put out sugar beets,apples,you name it but he never came over when the season opened he never got within 500 yards of the fence line. I kept a eye open for about a wk or more he was gone one day I happened to stop at the local taxidermy shop and there he was took down by a DODGE NEON no joke. Can,t remeber what he scored but the taxy said he was the biggest he,d seen in 30 yrs for a local deer.