Woodseye -My rifles averaged 1/2" groups with leupolds, ziesses and the A-lines.Point of impact has always been very consistant with all of the scopes.My hunting rifles are 7mmstw' s and 300ultramags so the scopes are exposed to some recoil.In all respects all brands were reliable but the a-lines are the clearest and brightest of the bunch and that is why I choose them for hunting.I would not hunt with any scope that I did not totally trust.