Again, thanks to you and Awshucks for the insight on the Vixen vs Phoenix. I'm leaning towards the Phoenix at this time but I'm currently using my son's 200 until I get one. Still haven't worked up the nerve to decock it as I don't seem to have enough "oomph" to pull it back off the string with one hand. Anyway, I read in another one of your posts that you have a Vixen black rail that you may get rid of? Does it have limbs with it and are you still interested in getting rid of it. My son came across a Vortex stock yesterday and was thinking of swapping his Exocet stock because he just loves those thumbhole stocks. The Vortex stock doesn't feel right to me with my long arms since they shortened it. To each his own I guess but it looks like he is going to have an extra stock of some sort. Just checking.