i get what your saying buck magnet..i really cant afford buying a new bow every year because i want to save for a truck(whole reason of getting a job)..i think i will find a good low end bow like you said and put the best stuff on it and have a bow that will work great for me for a long while until i can upgrade to a better bow....i think that will save me money in the long run...and i want a newer truck so im probally going to take a loan out for it anyway..all i need is a decint downpayment...which by the time im ready to truck shop wont be until september or so so i will be ok...thanx..i will start looking for a bare bow that i think looks good from what you told me last time....