well, i find myself in amazment the stuff worked for me. bought a 1 gallon bottle of the mixed powder an put it in a spot where the deer would have to really smell and look for it, they found it and it looked like a scrape where they cleaned it up. wasnt there to see it happen but the tracks tell the story. next i am trying a home made block of rolled oats, molassas, vanilla, and apple juice. will see what happens.