300ultra, I couldn't return your pm. You've got that blocked. You can google search www.carlmannsoutfitting.com and it should take you to the page to reach his website. On his homepage, the antelope picture on the right is my buddy's from our last hunt. Carl runs a first class camp and there are more mule deerin that area than any other place I've hunted. 8.5 million acres of land is a LOT of land! Good Luck