After reading the " different set ups for 3D and hunting" , I just couldn' t resist . This has been a pet peve of mine for years. When shooting spots, I have watched free stylers draw-hold-let down-draw-hold-let down etc. etc. and hold up the tour. to the point, It took all the fun out. I have only gone to one 3D and low and behold there are the free stylers on a 3D course(whats up with that). Three foot stablizers-scope-v bars and a moified little dove seat to wait at each target. Don' t get me wrong, they are paying their money and have every right to shoot and have fun but get real. How many of these guys or anyone else hunt with all the whistles and bells. I thought 3D was for hunting practice but alas I' m wrong again O.K FLAME AWAY Don, I thought 3d was for hunting practice Armstrong