Just put the order in for the z5 with the pine ridge scope this morning (before my $25.00 coupon expired). I know what you mean Cayugad about Tasco used to be good. I've got one of there old 3-9s (from 25 yrs ago) and it works fine although I still won't put it on anything more important than my .22 (because of the horrible luck I had with an additional Tasco (bought around 1990)). That thing was horrible. Now that I can afford decent quality glass, that is one place I won't skimp (although I will always look for a bargain)

Thanks for the help guys, I'm sure I'll be coming back to talk about bullets and powder. Members of this websiteare a better resourse than most anything else...as always

hb