for me a doe need to be big enought o justifey the 70 dollars to butcher
propley arund 120 dressed

for buck i wont something that is atlease anice sizerack is not that important to me but ido not wont to kill anyting younger then1 1/2 yearsmore like 2 years i willot shoot a buck with out 6 good points by which i mean 6 that are big and ican count out of my stand

and i am into my third year hunting out of four years and have not got one yet