He's here alot, kinda like a cop, never one around when you need him, lol. He may have read my post and gone into cardiac arrest, as I'm an Excal fan and he knows it. The key words for me and my advice was " six years old". You can find him real quick on 10 pts site: http://www.tenpointcrossbows.com/discussion/category-view.asp Don't tell him I sent you, I've an image to maintain, lol