PA old time thinkers are whining just the opposite. In some areas that may be true, others no no no. PA's estimation is still in upwards of over a million animals, it's never been that way in the "olden" days.

I used to be one of the old time thinkers that Rob is talking about. When I started hunting, it was nothing to see 20 deer in a group and maybe 50 in a day. 5 years ago we saw like 10 deer all season on our land. After timbering and getting some new growth back, the deer are back too. Deer will go where they can find what they need.