30 yds at a doe, I’d probably not even bother shooting. Depends on my mood and how many I’ve gotten so far that year. I’d have to gap her as I don’t have a 30 yd pin. But it works out pretty well that my pins space to almost exactly the height of a deer’s chest for a 30 yd shot. Holding like that I would hit about 1/3 of the way up the deer.