It really doesnt matter how many P&Y deer Lee passed up in those 58 days, he was waiting for a mature buck. I know on my farm in western Illinois its not at all uncommon to see a P&Y class 2.5 year old buck. I passed a heck of an 8 pointer up the year before last that was 2.5 years old and probably would have scored in the mid 120's. Im sure Iowa is the same way. Deer hunting is the same no matter where you go. Hunting is hunting, thats why they dont call it deer killing.Every hunter out there has certain obstacles and challenges he or she must over come to be succesful thats part of the sport, its no reason to critisize or put other hunters down. I believe it was Mr. Ted Nuggent that said hunters spend way too much time fighting andjudging other hunters instead of coming together to fight anti hunting. I think there is allot of truth to that.