njbowhunter, I am curious! I am wondering just what your credentials are, that you can state that Dr. Gary Alt is wrong! I may agree with you that the title to this thread could have been something else, but as a hunter in this state for 30 years now, I can safely make this statement. This is PA tradition, go to camp, get pig drunk, act like a jerk, shoot multiple times at deer, maybe walk more than 10yds. down the trail to determine whether we have connected. Don`t forget to roadhunt. No, I have not done these activities, just because I have never been given to drinking, but I have witnessed this behavior from many people, including those I used to call my friends. Yes. I am probably as guilty as them for not turning them in. I would do it now. That`s one thing about getting older, sometimes you actually do get smarter. Obviously not all hunters from our state are this way, but enough are to make it an embarrassment.