Been working with this call more, as well as with a diaphram through the tube. Getting better... can cow call nicely with my turkey calls now.

Still having trouble changing the tones in the bugle.

However, last night I got a "pack bugle" by primos, it came in the mail from Eastman's bowhunting journal.

WHAT A GREAT EASY TO USE CALL. Came with a blue reed and within 5 minutes I could do basic bugles and several cow/calf calls.

Within 15 minutes I could add a "growl" into the bugle, change the pitch and even do a passable chuckle at the end of the bugle.