Like I said, you could tell when you were at the wall but you can still pull past it. I'm just stating what I felt as just your average bowhunter. I know I don't have perfect form nor do I believe I am a good enough shooter to give a full blown report like the great ones that are given by guys on this site. I'm just giving my honest opinion as a regular guy. I still think it's a great bow and will own one when mine gets here. I think the most solid wall on a bow that I've drawn this year was on the Hoyt C.5 to be totally honest, but I shoot a low poundage when hunting(60) and like the added KE that the Dually Pat will give me.