I TAKE IT ALL BACK! after talking to a gentleman from moultrie on the phone i was able to get both of the cameras working correctly. The probelm for one was becasue of the memory card and the camera works as good as new without the card in. The other one just seems a little slower but works fine. Weird thing was that when i was talking to him on the phone and he just happened to be reading this post and asked if this was my post lol... i appologized for the poop talking and thanked him! So if you happen to read this again thanks alot sir!