^^^What Wheatlysaid. Also use a safety harness with a lineman's belt...helps so much more b/c you can lean back and hang your stand at arms length..vs. trying to hug the tree while hanging a stand. Plus, the extra 'step' you put into the tree above your stand can be used as a gear hanger or you can remove it. I leave it in b/c there's just not enough room on any of my hang on's for me and my gear.