Life is a circle! They will get what is coming to them one day! I only had one stand taken once and that was when I loaned it out to my brother! He put it up in a bad area and it came up missing. Cheap wal-mart stand but it still was a bummer. My one stand is a Iron Duke! Made from 2" 1/4 thick angle iron steel. It about killed my putting it up and they would have to almost die trying to get it. In fact I think it is past the point of taking since last year I noticed one of the small branches has grown threw the stand and a chain saw would be required to get it. ON the new swamp spot I plan on installing a ladder and that makes me real nervous! I almost get half sick every time I leave my game camera after checking the card! They will get whats coming to them someday!