I sent my rifle off to get a trigger job done. It's a ruger mkII. I told them I wanted it between 2.5 and 3 #. From what they said the gunsmith there will be able to get all the creep gone. It wasn't terible at 3.5# but quite creepy. I should get it back in bout a week or so. The range owner said that with a Ruger my best bet was to get the job done first then if I still wanted something else to replace the trigger. If it works out it will have saved me $75. I'm already anxious to get it back.