I have used both pachmyrs and limbsavers on my rifles. At the range I don't notice much difference but at the range I am also using a shoulder impact pad (really helps). Limbsavers are made from a softer rubber and stiffen up quite a bit when you are hunting very cold weather. During hunting season recoil has never been an option. I've taken many deer over the years using a .303 and the brass butt plate never was felt (then again sometimes I was wearing so many lavers of clothes I felt like the little kid in Christmas Story).