one more thing, I beleive a hunter should do everthing possible to hit a deer in the vitals. but, a gut shot is not always a bad shot.
I took a doe last week, and gut shot her. she bled out so fast she dropped at about 60 yds.

and my belief is nobody has the right to tell a hunter where,when,how far or what weapon to use. it should be the hunter's decesion perriod!<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

daytona 500 winner- Ward Burton
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