When I bought a savage 223 from a friend of mine it had a 8 point 3-9x40 on it. though its seems pretty decent I took it off and put my bushnell 4-12x40 on it. the 8 point aint no aetec but I think it will do fine in replacing the acient 4x32 bisel on my fathers old 30-06. I have never even heard of bisel before. have any of you guys ever heard of bisel scopes??