I feel a little snubbed. Most of the replies I have recieved have been helpful but was hoping for a little more help. I guess I never stopped to think about your side of things and kind of get the feeling I have desecrated sacred ground. I don't mean to step on anyone's toes here, and I am sorry if I have. Even though I don't hunt I do find these things interesting. Feel free to let me know what you think. I am over reacting? If you don't mind another thing I would like to find out about is rain suede! How well does it work? Is it durable? Hard to take care of (CLEAN)? Is it made to add extra warmth and if so does it?