Isnt it funny how Altas wants to turnmy opinion of himinto my opinion of everyone else. The fact is that Sylvan hit the nail on the head. Hunters as a group reflect every descriptive word; but not as individuals. I am far from the only hunter making the effort to gain hunting permission or hang stands. Why should all of us thousands of "selfish" hunters be doing the work for the "lazy" hunters? I conciously try to avoid puting myself on a pedastal, yet Atlas tries to alienate me from others that way to gain support for his lame position on many issues. ATLAS, ALL HUNTERS ARENT LAZY BUT THOSE WHO ARE DONT DESERVE TO HAVE OTHERS DO THEIR WORK FOR THEM. If someone WANTS to share a stand or hunting area with family and friends that is great but if they dont that doesnt make them selfish.