opinion is opinion. After scouting for most of the year. I am pretty sure I know some butof the patterns the deer are running but definitely not all. Especially as the rut approaches. I know guys whose scouting, and they may have done lots, has been waisted due to the wrong times to scout and hunt. This is why, I believe that most of us become more successful , as I like to say, "time in" occurs. This is definitely true after not spending years but decades hunting the same hunting locations. For Bow and ML I always track and stalk if I'm not in a tree stand. I have done this to assist both mychildren to learn the signs of the woods as well as to familiarize them with this the very yarge area that they are hunting. Yes there have been a couple of times where I have made a couple mile treck to get down wind and walk slowly in a push towards them. I had blaze taped their max. shooting distance and I had marked an are where I would becoming from as a no shoot zone. Has this system been successful? Just a couple of times out of manybut we have harvested a couple of does. Now that they are older we do not do this practise.Iwas trying to teach them to be sight hunters and not sound hunters (I've seen too many in my day that shoot on a break of a twig). This is easy to teach when they are at your side but comes a time when they will be on their own. As to full scale bush pushing...It is very dangerous and I would not be part of it. There have been people whom have invited me to go, (and I've seen some large groups of 15 or more) but this is not the hunting that I enjoy. I've seen numerous hunters get hurt using this method. I believe that if you put the time in, use both bow as well as ML seasons to assist you with further scouting, for rifle season you should never have to use a drive method. Some may say that in their area it is a nessecity but I could not comment for I am ignorant to their hunting location and I would be incorrect to make judgement on a situation where I am not familiar. What I do know is that it takes less skill and effort to pound through a bush than stealthly scout, locate, set up, and then harvest a deer clean and humainly by tracking and stalking a deer. I hope I have have not offended any one with my opinions.