ORIGINAL: atlasman
ORIGINAL: buckeyebuckhntr
The animal would be used as table fare and memories of an awesome hunt. Road kill is just a total waste of the animal.
I agree on the meat point 100%...........however, I think you would agree that the comments are VERY RARELY about the meat.
The "memories" part falls right into what I am saying..........when I see a roadkilled animal I feel bad for the animal........not for myself because I didn't get to kill him.
I don't care if it's a buck, doe, skunk or ground hog, NO animal deserves to get hit by a vehicle, for me, it's simply sad regardless or rack or lack there of.
Original: HNIJustin
All I read was the title of this thread, and my answer will be a simple "Yes, hunter's are extremely selfish. Not every single one of them, but as a whole we are."
Exactly what I said but thought more about it, then opened it to read more.
Futhermore, our greed, selfishness, and losing sight of why we are hunting in the first place will continue to degrade our sport until the average Joe is no longer able to afford hunting the way we knew it 10 years ago, which barely resembles hunting as we know it today anyways.
Exactly
I'd hate to single out hunters as selfish, no more or less than any other community on the planet today. Today the world is selfish, it's a ME oriented philosophy anymore. The world lacks respect, common courtesy, politeness and an all around sense of neighborly attitude. AS A WHOLE, because there are many exceptions. We certainly don't need to single it down to "hunters".
One of the most selfish "people" in the world today are PETA. I know there are some very meaningful individuals that belong to PETA that are misguided but PETA is selfish in the respect that they care nothing for the animals but simply the agenda and the money behind the agenda.
But alas atlasman, many in the hunting industry are very selfish, or perhaps we could use the term competitive, jealous or simply rude. As a whole I'd like to think we are a great group of people but the more I read of treestands being stolen, game cameras being stolen, trespassers (actually posting property could be considered selfish but necessary), animals being taken away from the rightful shooter etc, it's becoming harder and harder to see ourselves as a great bunch of brothers and sisters but that's the way of the world today. I see here on HNI as I've been here longer than most (NOT ALL) but most. This was a very close tight community at one time, today it seems it's at odds with itself and many of you have seen the change as well.
I look at this way, even with deer, mice or people, too many of any one species in one area will always result in conflict and deaths. Deer will kill each other to compete for food and mating, is man any different. We alone have the "mentality" to know right from wrong, we need to remember to have common courtesy.
Original: atlasman
I hear many guys say they have tons of land to hunt and many many stands as well...........so much so that many stands don't even get hunted in a given season.........yet how often do we hear about those people offering any of those spots to other hunters?? This is the conversation I had the other day.........with a guy who said he didn't even hunt 13 of his stands last year, I asked him why he didn't let someone else hunt from them a couple times especially if they weren't so fortunate as to have as many options..............his answer was F-That!!!....no one's killing a buck out of my stands but me. With all the talk recently about not wanting to share hunting land with even 1 other person I just wonder how selfish our sport is becoming.
That's a tried and true conversation in many areas, is it selfish or competitive?
I gladly give my stands up to my "friends" who I know will do the right things and return the same common courtesy. Obviously we cannot do this for everyone or that "spot" no longer exists as is. Matt/PA is coming the first 3 days of spring gobbler to hopefully take one of "my" gobblers. I'm hoping to get him his first before I fill my 2 tags.
I've had Matt in a couple of my best deer stands. I put Q2INWHITETAILS in front of his first buck in years, GMMAT had put me in one of his best deer locations and now in his turkey blind, I have hunts scheduled with others as well where we can share the stands, woods, comoradories etc.. There are a ton of selfish people in the world, some are hunters and we see that in the hunting industry, some are antihunters, non hunters, professional athletes, the guy down the street.
We also see some very generous and nonselfish acts in the hunting industry as well. We don't need to only point out the negative. We see outfitters donating hunts to the less fortunate, disabled, kids etc...we see our own members here send money to a total "stranger" to buy a Christmas present for another "stranger" here because of his comical post, antler necklaces and respect. (sending money to me to buy Cardeers camera). We see members here donate equipment to other hunters, a member who spent his money to send us all DVD's of the contest, members returning the favor and sending product, HNI sending out free product, prayers being asked for and sent, get togethers, friendships, shared hunts, money, etc......We mostly here of the negative, let's remember the positives too.