I hate to burst your bubble, but there really aren't that many P& Y deer here. Out of the 300 hours i hunted last season, i saw a grand total of 5 bucks that would make the cut off. 2 of which I killed. I worked extremely hard to get these deer. There are 11 other people who hunt in the same general area that i do and there mature buck harvest number was 0. So please tell them how easy it is to tag one in Illinois. I don't think I'm some super hunter, i'm just saying that i try much harder than most and it has been paying off for me. By the way, I went to Kansas and hunted public ground that i had never seen before and was able to put a tag on a 5 yr old 8 pter on day # 6. He was the only big buck I saw while hunting.