I think Desire might be the wrong word for this thread. Reason being: Don't we all desire to hunt as much as possible? Is there really oneus who wouldn't want to spend all day, everyday, the entire season in the woods. I know I sure would love to be able to that. Do I have the desire to do that, yep, can I, nope. Sothe word desire is probably a little misleading for this topic. NJ, You hit this right on the nose with that long post of yours. Deer are there, sometimes it just takes a little thing like a chance meeting with someone who knows a little more than yourself. I didn't think there were many big deer on the public land I hunt, until I found a little "sanctuary" (not really, but it sure seems like it since no one hunts it), now I KNOW there are big bucks in that area. I studied the maps I had of the area and was able to figure out what this spot had the rest of the land didn't. That chance drive-by I made on this tract during the season ended up making me into a better hunter.