in years past I used a moss. 500 turkey special with hevi shot #6's. I'm leaving it at home this year. I'm going to go after my first archery bird. I will be shooting a high country tssr with gold tip arrows and vortex 75 gr. broadheads. Season is only 2-1/2 weeks away here in Indiana. I'm taking the whole first week of season off of work. I imagine i will need all the time i can get to get one with my bow.