Ongoing First Shot Inconsistency - Ideas??
01-07-2011, 04:12 PM
#31
Spike
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My Triumph throws the first shot from a clean bore 1" high @ 100y.
I don't oil the bore until the season is over. In my experience, a clean muzzleloader is no more likely to rust than a clean smokeless centerfire.
I clean simply clean with Hoppes #9, finishing with 4 or 5 dry patches.
There are many variables that could affect point of impact of the clean/cold bore shot, isolating each of them and re-testing will be nice off season project. I'd start with eliminating the gun oil.
YMMV
Good luck on your hunt!
I don't oil the bore until the season is over. In my experience, a clean muzzleloader is no more likely to rust than a clean smokeless centerfire.
I clean simply clean with Hoppes #9, finishing with 4 or 5 dry patches.
There are many variables that could affect point of impact of the clean/cold bore shot, isolating each of them and re-testing will be nice off season project. I'd start with eliminating the gun oil.
YMMV
Good luck on your hunt!
01-07-2011, 04:13 PM
#32
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01-07-2011, 04:18 PM
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I Hunt and Shoot on a Fouled Barrel, the MLer shoots just where it's suppos-to when the Barrel's Fouled. On a Clean Barrel you just never know exactly where the Bullets going to hit, it may be close but I want it to be on, not close.
But when you said you (did'nt) use a Brush the second time when you cleaned your MLer that would meant there's still a smal amount of Fouling in the Barrel. But you also said the Sabot loaded (easier) without the Brushing, this does'nt make sence to me as it should have had a littler more resistance without the Brushing then when you did brush it?? So I cant answer this one......
If it was the other way around where you did Brush the Barrel I'd say your MLer likes a Fouled Barrel.
So I guess you'll just have to follow your Original Cleaning Routine and use the Brush and then see if this makes a difference and your Bullet hits in the same spot when doing so. I still dont see how the Bullet loads easier when it is not Brushed vs when it is.
(BP)
But when you said you (did'nt) use a Brush the second time when you cleaned your MLer that would meant there's still a smal amount of Fouling in the Barrel. But you also said the Sabot loaded (easier) without the Brushing, this does'nt make sence to me as it should have had a littler more resistance without the Brushing then when you did brush it?? So I cant answer this one......
If it was the other way around where you did Brush the Barrel I'd say your MLer likes a Fouled Barrel.
So I guess you'll just have to follow your Original Cleaning Routine and use the Brush and then see if this makes a difference and your Bullet hits in the same spot when doing so. I still dont see how the Bullet loads easier when it is not Brushed vs when it is.
(BP)
Breech - Believe me, I was just as confused about this aspect of it as you were. Only thing I can think of is that I possibly didnt run the dry patch enough to get barrel completely dry before alcohol patches thus perhaps creating a lubed surface when the powder from primers was shot on top of it???? I was using pretty wet solvent patches since I read most dont use brushes hence the reason I chose not to use the brush this time. The load went down "jerky" - slow steady drag then hit a spot and speed up then catch again. Only thing I can think of.
01-07-2011, 04:24 PM
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If it was me I would repeat your procedure and see what it does then. With the sabot loading noticeably easier with the flyer I suspect something was up with that load. I would try the whole process again for peace of mind and see where it shoots then on a clean barrel.
I guess I didnt have my barrel dry of solvent before firing the primers thus leaving a film on the bore. That is all I can think of.
