My only thought is that the acorns have started to fall, those bucks might be changing food sources. Also, Ive noticed when they shed the velvet they dont move much. So find their home or the nuts and hunt that...

Thats my plan, I'll be hunting white oaks on my first hunt.

Same here in IL...not seeing the bucks like I as, I've seen a few out of velvet and a few still in velvet, but not in groups anymore, they are dis-banding from there summer groups....which is a good thing, it means hunting season is ALMOST here

Checked my camera today, been getting a lot more pictures of the big guy, even one in daylight this morn. Cant wait for the season to get here.

Ed lets see some of those pics of that fella! The real question is who is going to score the first one?

Gonna head out to my stand this evening and I am going to sit in it for a few hours... I hope I see somethin

I will have my video camera to so if I do see anything I will try to get it on film to.

I'll give you guys an update on it when I get back.

I can guarentee I will have something on the ground by Oct. 10, it might only be a doe, but something only has about 35 days left to walk.

Haha I will guarentee I have someting on the ground buy the 20th!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Of september that is !!! I need some burger and loin and am tired of paying $2 somthin a pound!! I hope so at least, I will try my damndist!!!

Here he is, I'm thinking hes a low to mid 140's gross. I'm sorta confused though, he is the only decent buck I have pics of, but I know I've got more out there, I think my problem is the does have completely dominated the bait pile... I dont hunt over this anyway, so I could be in for a surprise when i hunt the oak patch

Ed, he will be crushed my friend by you! I will have something on the ground opening day......buck or doe. I hope it is a buck but I will gladly take a doe!

Upgraded my ride Sat. I bought a 2006 Dodge Dakota Ext. Cab with topper and brush guard on it, I will put up pics Mon. or Tues. when I get it. I pick it up tomorrow, then straight to work[:'(], but def. by Tues. I will have a pic. You guy will laugh your ass off when you know what my "old" car was...first I drive 70 miles one way to work, so I needed something gas friendly, so I had a 1991 Toyota Celica, and if I went hunting by myself and got a deer...YES I did throw that sucker in the hatchbackNow I'll actually feel like I belong in the woods....lol.