So.... an elk or moose that just got shot isn't going to pump enough adrenaline to get a little high too?

Its not just Somalia - these reports are coming in from Iraq and Afghanistan.

SOLDIER WEAPONS ASSESSMENT TEAM REPORT 6-03
OPERATION IRAQI FREEDOM
31 July 2003

http://www.bob-oracle.com/SWATreport.htm

"Some targets were reportedly hit in the chest numerous times, but required at least one shot to the head to defeat it."


Widespread requests for higher lethality are what is prompting this review. and the development (and adoption) of guns like the HK 417, and the SCAR (both 7.62 NATO based guns). Its not a flook and its not just junkies- its just too light a cartridge; especially in the M4 configuration - the bullet looses alot of performance when you take away the 20" barrel and strap on that 14.5". I think that's why alot of Marines still use the 20" config, but I've never had that conrfirmed.

My oppinion is, if you want to nail something in an AR-15 config, lay down the dough to get it chambered in 6.5 Grendel, .308 or .300 Remington SAUM. That would be the only ethical way I could see to deploy that platform in a big game scenario (and its an option I am currently considering myself).